What's wrong with short and a little plump? You don't get much more beautiful, stupid stick-ideals.
Also, female blacksmiths - rawr, always been fascinated by it, it's like a medieval predecesor to my fetishious fascination for female mechanics.
I can see why Luca would get her panties in a bunch for this one, even though Luca's a Gangrel and she is...well, A torrie.

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I think she's sexier like this Like... Rosie the Riveter sexy~ I like your grey-scale pictures, they have a nice traditional brush pen feel, I think.

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Gorgeous movement throughout. I'm also a sucker for grayscale.

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Wow, is nice to see an anti-arquetipe Toreadro, working and bending steels instead of trying to paint or to write poetry...your chars are really original, all of them...specialy the Yo- machine, Costas

Nice work with your vampires

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Come now, not all Toreador are Kate Mosses. I'd wager the majority of women Embraced more than a century ago would tend to have rounder figures, as the standards for what is attractive used to be quite different. In fact, even Victoria Ash is said to have a "classic" sort of beauty, rather than lean towards a Kate Moss (leaning towards Moss is never a good idea anyway, she probably topples over in a stiff wind).

Also, a Toreador with an apron and an anvil? Why not? The term "art" has o be even broader than the term "beauty", so if she considers what she's doing to be artistic, hell, chances are she's the most skilled blacksmith around (by the by, real blacksmith trade is *so* an art; personal opinion).

Anyways; nicely captured dynamic. Don't know if I'm a fan of the basic approach to the apron, but the anatomy looks good and the b&w gives it a sort of a dramatic, heavy duty atmosphere, which I don't know if was intended, but looks good.

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I'd wager that among the older ones there are more "rounder" female Toreador having the "classic" sort of beauty rather than the Kate Moss-look. However, I seldom see them, though logically they should be there. I would be immensely surprised if Victoria Ash had the body of a 21st century model.

What I meant with my "unlike all other Toreador" was... well, make a browse for Toreador in the little Search Art-field up there. To me, there's clearly a lack of 9-10 stoners. (Perhaps 8er, when the older should be shorter than the younger. iBabble.)

I think the term "beauty" has been a little misunderstood, and that it is common in character creation to apply the ideals of today to Toreador who is 200+. But hey, I'm not going to preach my ideas to someone who doesn't want it.

Furthermore, I agree with you. Real blacksmith trade is indeed an art, and the creation of it a dazzling thing to look at. You needn't be stuck with oils and poetry.


Thanks!

(Why are you so brill, dash it?)

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Ah, here lies the problem in our communication - I don't use the search - people put absurd keywords in, rendering it useless; if I feel like killing a minute I go "Random" instead. So no, I wouldn't know what the search returns on a "Toreador" query. Well, now I sort of do, now that you've told me, plus I can imagine.

And I have absolutely no idea how a brill, which is a fish native to the northern Atlantic, enters into the discussion, but hey, I don't know a great many things.

As for appearances, I also believe the general populace tended to be quite a bit shorter back in the day, so yeah, agreed, applying todays standards to 2+ century old characters is quite silly. Then again, most players shouldn't be allowed a character older than 30 anyways, unless they do RESEARCH their BLOODY character's BACKGROUND ERA, grrr.

/gripe from personal experience

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I think I meant brilliant when saying brill, meaning I will have a hard time agreeing with you when you say you don't know a great many things. On a scale from one to hundred, how many people know that the brill is a fish...? I think you figured anyway.

Oh, but it is so charming to play a character who can reference to the happenings of old, and own experiences from them on top of that! No... wait, if the player didn't do any reasearch, they won't know about those things... damn. "The French revolution? oh yeah, I've heard of it...sort of"
So, INDEED research very important if you play someone ridiculously old, but I think it's the omnipotence of characters who are 300+ which makes people want to play them mostly. Not many think of reaserach when the world is before their feet. I remember it says somewhere in some rulebook "In a world where age is everything" or sometingmuchlikeit; what propaganda...It has its charm.
Study-unwilling should keep their hands off age (I think I should at times too, har) and some shouldn't even be allowed to make a character at all. If you're harsh and whiny.

I weep for you and your personal experience. Many years of ST?

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Damn, she's definately my type. Her body, face, and obviously her temperament which is not in the most etheric side... yup yup. I'd marry her any time and probably go mad.